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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2009, 10:29:30 AM »
I really like the third picture a lot! The only down side is that her arms are incredibly thin, as are her fingers. If you could somehow flesh those parts out a little more, I think the piece will end up looking really nice. :3
Thanks Popo, I will take note of it if I'm going to make another full body of her. : D
I don't think I can fix it up though, I already use pen for it and I know I'm too lazy to fix anything when I already used a pen. D:


As for the others, my only real suggestion is to work on facial shapes a little more. (I like your expressions!) They lack definition, particularly from a 3/4 perspective. (3/4 = The first and second pictures.) The forehead should curve down slightly, the face should dip in a little bit near the eyes, then turn at some sort of cheek bone (higher up for females, slightly lower for males, as a general rule), and eventually form the chin. For the law line, it doesn't actually stop mid-neck, but goes all the way to the base of the ear. Like cheekbones, as a general rule, the jaw sweeps up below the ear slightly higher on females than males, and is slightly less pronounced. (But you can mix and match these rules as you like in anime.) XD
Ah yes, will put more work on it next time. XD

I do have a problem though, I'm planning to make it in a real life style, but it always end up in anime style. Oh well... DX


Try looking at yourself in the mirror, or find a photo reference to use. I found this on dA--the model doesn't exactly have the most feminine face, but it might still be helpful. :3
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Thank you very much, I can use this. : D
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2009, 01:35:17 PM »
As for the others, my only real suggestion is to work on facial shapes a little more. (I like your expressions!) They lack definition, particularly from a 3/4 perspective. (3/4 = The first and second pictures.) The forehead should curve down slightly, the face should dip in a little bit near the eyes, then turn at some sort of cheek bone (higher up for females, slightly lower for males, as a general rule), and eventually form the chin. For the law line, it doesn't actually stop mid-neck, but goes all the way to the base of the ear. Like cheekbones, as a general rule, the jaw sweeps up below the ear slightly higher on females than males, and is slightly less pronounced. (But you can mix and match these rules as you like in anime.) XD
Ah yes, will put more work on it next time. XD

I do have a problem though, I'm planning to make it in a real life style, but it always end up in anime style. Oh well... DX

Well, you can use elements of both when you draw. :3 You can apply the basics of anatomy, or in this case, the basic shapes and structural components of the human face, and apply it your art/characters as you see fit. It's a good way to develop a little style and get away from cookie-cutter anime, in which everything is very angular and distorted.

In short, you can draw someone with a nicely defined jaw and cheekbones, and still give them gigantic anime eyes. XD
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2009, 03:37:11 AM »
Uh... since I'm here, might as well as posting some of my new drawings and ask for some criticism.

Loooooooong arms are long. >.>;;

Eh, I think there is something off with her face?


lolhands... no, scratch that, loleverything. >_>;;

lolshoulders, lolarms, lolhands


Yeeeah.... fire away

Ok. You're asking for a semi-serious critique, since you're kinda serious about getting better as an artist. So I'll give you a honest, serious critique, since I think that you are beyond the need to be flattered phase.

You're not doing your underdrawings, and making a half-decent underdrawing would fix your face in perspective. Another thing that would fix that face, is a center line. Drawing in where the line of symmetry would be in a piece like the thirds one.

Reason why I'm talking about that first is because there is no dimension in all four sketches. What that usually means is that you aren't using basic 3d shapes to define your base, before you apply all the detailed information. Secondly, you have floating features galore. The casual watcher can tell that from looking at it, that all the features lack grounding, from the facial features, to the length of the arms. Everything lacks grounding and proportions.

I'm not going to go into detail on everything that is wrong, because first of all, it will overwhelm you, secondly, almost everything that is wrong, is linked to you not doing a proper underdrawing. I can see it here. You're trying to do so much in your drawings, but you're getting lost on where things are, and how they work on the figure. I'm ignoring the anatomy right now, and there are many, many anatomical flaws, but right now, your biggest issue is making a decent base, and not drawing on the fly.

Once you nail that issue, I can nearly guarantee a 50% improvement on all your drawings. Even though the proportions will still be fucked up, your drawings will have mass, have dimension a hint of perspective, which, with your level of line work, will take you very very far.

Your secondary issue is obviously anatomy, and knowing how long to make your blocks. But your first hurdle is to start making those blocks, so that you can pin your higher details on those blocks.
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2009, 12:47:07 PM »
Well, you can use elements of both when you draw. :3 You can apply the basics of anatomy, or in this case, the basic shapes and structural components of the human face, and apply it your art/characters as you see fit. It's a good way to develop a little style and get away from cookie-cutter anime, in which everything is very angular and distorted.

In short, you can draw someone with a nicely defined jaw and cheekbones, and still give them gigantic anime eyes. XD
Sounds fun, I can keep the eyes then! 8D


Ok. You're asking for a semi-serious critique, since you're kinda serious about getting better as an artist. So I'll give you a honest, serious critique, since I think that you are beyond the need to be flattered phase.

You're not doing your underdrawings, and making a half-decent underdrawing would fix your face in perspective. Another thing that would fix that face, is a center line. Drawing in where the line of symmetry would be in a piece like the thirds one.

Reason why I'm talking about that first is because there is no dimension in all four sketches. What that usually means is that you aren't using basic 3d shapes to define your base, before you apply all the detailed information. Secondly, you have floating features galore. The casual watcher can tell that from looking at it, that all the features lack grounding, from the facial features, to the length of the arms. Everything lacks grounding and proportions.

I'm not going to go into detail on everything that is wrong, because first of all, it will overwhelm you, secondly, almost everything that is wrong, is linked to you not doing a proper underdrawing. I can see it here. You're trying to do so much in your drawings, but you're getting lost on where things are, and how they work on the figure. I'm ignoring the anatomy right now, and there are many, many anatomical flaws, but right now, your biggest issue is making a decent base, and not drawing on the fly.

Once you nail that issue, I can nearly guarantee a 50% improvement on all your drawings. Even though the proportions will still be fucked up, your drawings will have mass, have dimension a hint of perspective, which, with your level of line work, will take you very very far.

Your secondary issue is obviously anatomy, and knowing how long to make your blocks. But your first hurdle is to start making those blocks, so that you can pin your higher details on those blocks.
As for the underdrawing, sadly you are right. Actually I don't use it at all.

I dunno why, but everytime I try to use it, my drawing turned out so much worse. It makes me feel want to give up using it, even though I know it's important. I should try again and fix it up.

But thank you for the critique, I need it. >.<
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2009, 07:52:35 PM »
I dunno why, but everytime I try to use it, my drawing turned out so much worse.

Put up your drawings that uses an underdrawing, then just place an underdrawing. I'm not sure if, and i hate saying this, you're doing it right.

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It makes me feel want to give up using it, even though I know it's important.


I can't begin to tell you how many times i've felt that way. But each time I've worked through that, I've grown as an artist.  Talk to anybody who's work is worth any salt, (usually from the sweat of their pores) and they'll tell you at the very least that they kept working at it.

Work hard.
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2009, 12:03:35 AM »
Put up your drawings that uses an underdrawing, then just place an underdrawing. I'm not sure if, and i hate saying this, you're doing it right.
Yes, I think I'm doing it wrong. :/

Time to give it a shoot again.


I can't begin to tell you how many times i've felt that way. But each time I've worked through that, I've grown as an artist.  Talk to anybody who's work is worth any salt, (usually from the sweat of their pores) and they'll tell you at the very least that they kept working at it.

Work hard.
Yes, thank you. I will try my best.
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2009, 12:13:06 PM »
Alright double posts. banned

lolhomework, so I don't have much time to draw anything meaningful.

I just made a 15 minutes sketch and this is the result.

Yep, that's all.
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Re: Sketch Dump -Fia-
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2009, 11:22:22 PM »
Better. By making basic shapes and locking your features on them, your 15 minute sketch is looking a lot stronger then the previous piece you posted.

Your proportions as a result are stronger.

Now the critiques: The angle of your features and the angle of your face don't match. at the angle of your features, you would see features like the lips and the chin start to become a part of the silhouette. As a result, the jawline feels like it is pressed against the neck.  Also, remember that people have brows, and at that angle, would effect the silhouette.
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